.30cal aiugun long range shooting

smith bro


R0lanand

And than you want to surprise us?

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smith bro
.30cal aiugun long range shooting
Ты чьих будешь?

Nik4722

Провокатор 😊

smith bro

nothing , just share a video .
you don't like it ?

Techno660798

Not bad. But we also have enough of these videos with domestic riflescopes 😊

Here's from Radeon Shooter for example.


smith bro

Techno660798
Not bad. But we also have enough of these videos with domestic riflescopes 😊

Here's from Radeon Shooter for example.


nice video , it's difficult for .25cal ,but he made it .
slug have hight BC ,

ADF

smith bro
slug have hight BC

That is the exact point slugs are used. Yet the gun itself should be capable of launching them close to 1M.

smith bro

ADF

That is the exact point slugs are used. Yet the gun itself should be capable of launching them close to 1M.

slug is better , but The number of shots is much lower. Do you know HUBEN K2? Very good pcp, its pressure is up to 35MP, in order to maintain its multiple shots.

smith bro


Р-140м

панаехали

ADF

smith bro
Do you know HUBEN K2? Very good pcp

Made of disposable chinesium? No thx.

smith bro

nope ,Very novel design, no-hammer system ,i think it's great .

Вирус

smith bro

You advertizing agent or sales representative?

ADF

smith bro
Very novel design, no-hammer system

The issue is not about design, but about implementation. This thing is not very durable and when it breaks it is very hard to repair.

In our country we have rifles like edgun and cricket. With LW barrels and 4500 PSI cylinders. And we are very picky about chinese crap 😊

smith bro

Вирус
You advertizing agent or sales representative?

In fact, I am selling riflescope.

DEN 54


Вирус

smith bro
In fact, I am selling riflescope.
Just your attempt as if accidentally to advertize HUBEN very strongly is evident

Techno660798

ADF
... And we are very picky about chinese crap 😊

Well... We in Russia, too, often produces shit 😊
Huben is a very interesting device, time will tell.

ADF

There is not much shit in Russia! Your words makes my bear sad.

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Techno660798
Huben - очень интересное устройство, время покажет.
Если у кого и попадётся кака,
будут упорно молчать и восторгаться.
Потом конечно просочится, и вот тогда бы
устроить круглый стол по типу "пусть говорят" среди владельцев
и тех кто им посоветовал.

stacid

btw how much for that chinese copy of huben?

stacid

Techno660798
Well... We in Russia, too, often produces shit 😊
"shit" is very popular word but mostly in other countries. my bear also got sad.

smith bro

Вирус
Just your attempt as if accidentally to advertize HUBEN very strongly is evident

no , i sell riflescope . i just like HUBEN very much . i think it's a great pcp . Its no-hammer system design and long range are very attractive to me.

smith bro

I believe this sentence: "you get what you pay for". Cheap products often mean poor quality.

In fact, many "Made in China" products are of very good quality. I believe that you have all used Chinese-made products. Are they all rubbish? No, no, some quality is bad, but most of them are good.

Techno660798

stacid
"shit" is very popular word but mostly in other countries. my bear also got sad.
When I stopped working electrician on a domestic car, I very often used this word and many other similar )))

ADF

smith bro
you have all used Chinese-made products. Are they all rubbish?

We are not talking about iphones and samsungs, but about guns. Most of chinese airguns are crap. Only in recent years we start to see some quality rifles from China, but most of them still sucks. Not much of a deal if it is just a springer, but when it is ready to blow air-powered pipebomb - that scares my bear me a lot!

DEN 54

Напоминаю правила форума -
http://gunszip.org/topic/30/272648.html

4. Правила написания.

а) Общепринятый язык - русский. Если Вы не владеете русским языком-воспользуйтесь словарем. Допускается транслитерация, если компьютер не поддерживает русский язык.

б) Запрещается применение "олбанцкого" стиля и его косноязычных аналогов и форм, а также "блатных" выражений и стиля.

в) Старайтесь, по мере возможности, придерживаться правил русского языка. При затруднениях воспользуйтесь текстовым редактором для проверки орфографии (не дожидайтесь пока это Вам посоветуют другие участники).
Случайные описки бывают у каждого, но намеренное коверкание слов коробит других участников форума.

ADF

Well, only so called "olbansky" is prohibited. Russian is just recommended 😉

smith bro

ADF

We are not talking about iphones and samsungs, but about guns. Most of chinese airguns are crap. Only in recent years we start to see some quality rifles from China, but most of them still sucks. Not much of a deal if it is just a springer, but when it is ready to blow air-powered pipebomb - that scares my bear me a lot!

If we only discuss air guns, this is a fact. I have to admit that this is indeed the case.However, please don't say that all Chinese products are rubbish.

You know ,Since about the 1990s, China has started to ban guns. So far, we can't even buy any firearms and airguns publicly.In such an environment, the gun factory lost its order and lost its vitality and creativity.This is a very important reason.


smith bro

Forgive me for not speaking Russian. I have tried to use the translator to communicate, but that often leads to some misunderstandings. So, I chose to use English.

ADF

smith bro
Forgive me for not speaking Russian. I have tried to use the translator to co...

It's fine. 😊

smith bro
...we can't even buy any firearms and airguns publicly.In such an environment, the gun factory lost its order and lost its vitality and creativity.This is a very important reason.

Not sure if it is the real case.
Some points: airsoft also banned in China, yet there is a lot of china-made airsoft "guns" which are good.
AFAIK airguns in China are made on military factories, owned by gov. On factories who made real guns for the army using advanced tools and machinery. And still - for some reason they didn't mastered airguns by now.
And looking at some china-made airguns before 1990 - those were mostly based on designs existed before WW2, with a single piece trigger and so on. Even if there was some advanced and quality guns - they are unknown to the world.

smith bro

Airsoft is very good. In Hong Kong and Taiwan, wargame is very popular, and the airsoft guns produced there are very good.

But the situation in mainland China is very bad. The law stipulates that the muzzle specific energy cannot be greater than 1.8 joules/cm2. For airsoft, it is about 0.6 joules. Pcp is not able to pass such a standard. This is too strict.

There are some state-owned gun factories still in production. For example, Chongqing's "Emei", many shooting athletes choose their products as training and competition guns. The shotgun of the "Eagle" factory in Qiqihar City, on the forum, someone is selling their products. Maybe anyone of you has bought them.

Chinese firearms are good, but not great. Before 2000, no army/police sniper rifle was able to sub-moa. But now, CS/LR4 has done it, and it has performed very well in some international competitions. There will be more good guns in the future.

ADF

The discussion become interesting!

For airsoft, it is about 0.6 joules. Pcp is not able to pass such a standard. This is too strict.

It can be done. Will require special plastic pellets which can slide through rifled barrel with no friction and special main valve. It will be a normal PCP gun otherwise, but can pass requirements. And sell normal full-power valves separately. Here in Russia many PCP rifles are certified just like this (with a bit different energy limit to be legal). Ultimately this allows u to produce guns and sell all over the world. Users adjust power to their needs/regulations in specific country/do it on their own risk.

In last couple years we got impressed by Kandar guns. Specifically 600 and 700 models. This is example of quality airguns from China. 😛

smith bro

ADF
The discussion become interesting!

It can be done. Will require special plastic pellets which can slide through rifled barrel with no friction and special main valve. It will be a normal PCP gun otherwise, but can pass requirements. And sell normal full-power valves separately. Here in Russia many PCP rifles are certified just like this (with a bit different energy limit to be legal). Ultimately this allows u to produce guns and sell all over the world. Users adjust power to their needs/regulations in specific country/do it on their own risk.

In last couple years we got impressed by Kandar guns. Specifically 600 and 700 models. This is example of quality airguns from China. 😛

Maybe we can do it, but it is too much trouble. The 0.6 Joule kinetic energy limit is really strict, and it is very easy to break through this limit and become illegal.

I am curious about what the Russian gun law is like. As far as I know, airgun and shotgun are readily available. Rifles and pistols require special procedures, right? This is much better than the bad laws of China. At least the weapons of hunting can be bought.

"Kandar"? ? Sorry, although I am a Chinese, we have not heard of this brand because we can't buy their products. I know "snowpeak", "Emei", and "HUBEN". They have a long history or are very famous.

smith bro

In fact, there are still some people who are secretly buying pcp. Maybe you won't like this video, but it is indeed taken by Chinese airgun players. Unfortunately, this player has also been investigated by the police.


ADF

smith bro
"Kandar"? ? Sorry, although I am a Chinese, we have not heard of this brand because we can't buy their products. I know "snowpeak",

Probably another name of Snowpeak.

smith bro
As far as I know, airgun and shotgun are readily available. Rifles and pistols require special procedures, right?

Handguns are prohibited. Except blanks and less-lethal weapons (shoots rubber bullets). Requires obtaining a license, just like shotguns and rifles. Airguns up to 7.5 J without license.

The explanation is simplified, of course.

tancus

Это нормально . .
Когда нечего написать по сути, начинают играть с формой ..
Но СУТЬ от этого не меняется .. точнее это лишний раз подчёркивает отсутствие сути ..
.. одним словом, ДЕТСТВО ..

mazila v upor

[B][/B]nothing , just share a video .
you don't like it
lovely gun, exeptional equipment, powerful and accurate shooting thanks. however what always suprises me in larger that average bore solutions is that they are iferior to junior calibers in terms of dimensions, weignt, ballance and sound reduction not mention shot per fill capacity but priced well enogh above and ironically inferior to firearms loosing in range, power, anyway accuracy and still require hell of compessed air instead of simple bandolier aroung your waist. if hunting the chance of wrongly wounded animal also higher as the flatness is still similar to subsonic ballistic so long range is rather joke definition. And again priced over much better firearms options.